iPhone OS 2.0.2 Crashes: Too Many Applications?

Posted by likeafox24
21 August 2008 @ 9am

For whatever it’s worth. I have a good six home-screens’ worth of apps…and I haven’t experienced the crashing third-party app issue since 2.0.0. Back then, deleting the app from my iPhone and from iTunes, then re-downloading it, fixed it every time.

Posted by rspress2005_dotmac
21 August 2008 @ 9am

This has been around in 2.0.1. Syncing without music or video select is also unnecessary. Just choosing to sync selected apps and then check only the apps you want to sync. Then sync.

Some users have even had all apps working and audio and video show work again by adding a new song that has never been on the iPod or iPhone before.

Most users have run large numbers of apps with no problems for a long time before this problem happens so the number of apps does not seem to be the problem. More than likely having a large number of apps means that there is more of a chance that iTunes 7.7.1 will write back a corrupted DRM wrapper to an app back to the iPod or iPhone. Users of iTunes 7.7.0 are not having these problems and Apple has posted a link to iTunes 7.7.0 in the iPod Touch discussion group.

macfixit.com seems to be a little behind the curve on this one despite me posting the problem to them several days ago.

Posted by stephenlev
21 August 2008 @ 12pm

man, do you guys print anything but bad news? This isn’t a site about global warming, it’s a site about a new toy a bunch of people bought. Maybe you should change your site name to “whyyournewiphonesucks.com.” What a downer!

Posted by Cyril.Blanc
21 August 2008 @ 8pm

Hello
I have PWnaged V1 Iphone with 2.0.1 and Safari is crashing quite often.
I have less than 2 1/2 pages of Apps !

Also it take time to find my two Wifi spot !
I get a few messages and 1 minutes after I am attached ! it was not doing this in 1.x

Best

Cyril

Posted by osxinfo
21 August 2008 @ 10pm

yep, 202 seems to have stablized things (thank god!)

so far, i have opened up nearly 20 apps - i will stress test to 60 - and all is good.

but the real acid test is the wink links - utube & safari which normally crash avery 2 or 3 minutes.

i will report the final results accordingly.

Posted by osxinfo
21 August 2008 @ 10pm

off topic to running apps - but related to configuring apps”

it would be sooooo nice if app designers would follow the standard “widget” style.

(normally, selecting the “i” badge/icon causes a well-behaved widget’s interface to be flipped over so that the user can manage setup in-place instead of being dumped out into the browser …. and the the crazy part about that is that (a) the local browser has no way to communicate back with any the app (via IPC) and (b) the browser doesnt proxy its config data back up through the cloud so that it is automatically acknowledged by the local app — which does NOT require the unreleased ‘push’ service for o/s ver2.1).

apple needs to introduce a reg/config framework that does more than just sign the app for security! (it needs to handles the normal conventions of an in-place UI).

Posted by Danyel1971
21 August 2008 @ 11pm

What a MESH….!!!

Posted by man290663
22 August 2008 @ 8am

Deleting the applications in itunes may work but if these are PAID applications getting them again form the itunes store requires you to BUY them again.

Surely its better to leave the applications where they are and simply chose what you want under the ‘Applications Tab for the iphone’ going form ‘Sync All’ to “Sync Selected Apps” then select which ones you want to sync.

the itunes leaving backup copies on your hard drive is not a major issue nor is it an iphone one!

some apps don’t work as they are not installed on the iphone properly in the first place. simply remove all apps form the iphone. (set to sync nothing) then add them in batches of 5 or so from itunes and you’ll find they work.

throwing away a £50 app makes no sense at all.

I have only had 2 apps not work on me - delete them from the iphone then sync them again reinstalling them and they will often run on the second install. there is no need for overkill or a 4 hour erase of the iphone form the ” Erase All Content and Settings” settings either.

this is akin to throwing away the vehicle when the ashtray is full!!

Posted by jbucanek
22 August 2008 @ 8am

man290663 writes:

“Deleting the applications in itunes may work but if these are PAID applications getting them again form the itunes store requires you to BUY them again.”

This is not true. If you’ve paid for an application, you can delete if from both the iPhone and iTune. You may then go to the App store and “purchace” the application again. You’ll be presented with a note that you’ve already paid for the application and it will download again for free.

I’ve had to do with an application that wouldn’t launch I I did not have to buy it again.

Posted by FinePeter
22 August 2008 @ 8am

Reading this: “Reducing the number from 6 pages worth to a bit under 3 pages worth seems to provide a temporary fix.”

WOW! This is really a badly conceived conclusion because it sure sounds like that a good chance that on those 3 removed pages of iPhone apps may have been the apps that are the real culprits so removing them of course will make things better.

The ONLY WAY to have tested this hypothesis would have been to delete and then reload every app that was also included on those 3 pages worth so during the course of testing all those apps were still loaded on the iPhone if only to the 3 page capacity. I bet no one has done that tedious amount of variable testing yet?

Hope this is clear? To say it was the number of apps vs the choice of apps that are on the iPhone one would have to make sure that what was removed was installed as well but only using up 3 pages worth.

-Peter

Posted by rmurraymd
22 August 2008 @ 10am

You are asked to buy the applications when you redownload them, but you are not charged.

Posted by likeafox24
22 August 2008 @ 10am

man290663 is right about the erasing the iPhone. That sure seems like overkill to me.

However, he is wrong on one point: man290663 says, “Deleting the applications in itunes may work but if these are PAID applications getting them again form the itunes store requires you to BUY them again.”
This is NOT true. If you delete an app that you’ve bought, iTunes remembers that you’ve already purchased it and you can download it for free as many times as you want—even if you’ve deleted it accidentally or purposefully.

Posted by likeafox24
22 August 2008 @ 10am

Great minds…

Posted by Squuiid
23 August 2008 @ 9pm

erasing the phone DOES SEEM like overkill, but in fact IS NOT. THIS WORKED FOR ME!

Posted by likeafox24
24 August 2008 @ 8pm

By definition, overkill will work. We’re just saying it’s like using a sledgehammer to kill a fly. A standard flyswatter will do. There are many simpler things to try first before erasing your entire iPhone. Try erasing the problematic app first!

Posted by mfix--2008
25 August 2008 @ 9am

unfortunately this App crashing problem is coming back each time i download a new app. Tried everything including total restore with or without restore of backup data several times (takes hours- mind you) - Final verdict is that the 2.0.2 release is buggy and unstable and from my point of view early BETA software quality at best - shame on you Apple.

Posted by bernie90210
31 August 2008 @ 11am

This problem started happening to me only after I upgraded to firmware 2.0.2 (from 2.0.1). I have less than a total of 3 screens of apps. On a hunch, I shut down my phone and rebooted; the problem was gone.

Posted by gr8tfly
3 September 2008 @ 8pm

I had the “all apps crash on launch” issue (other than “built-in” apps). Restarting didn’t fix it. Reducing the number of apps (had just rolled over to about 60 total) - didn’t fix it. I thought I was facing yet another restore, but I thought I would try and re-install a single app and see what happened.

Well, not only did it fix that app, but it fixed ALL the other applications. They all launch properly, now.

So, to reiterate: The only thing I did was uninstall, then reinstall a single application. All the other failing applications started working. No restart was needed.

I haven’t been able to repeat the fix, and I’m hoping I don’t have to [before 2.1 comes out], but it looks promising.